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Location:

Baden-Württemberg,Germany

Member Since:

Oct 29, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Started running in 2004.

PR's 

10k 37:44 Sülzbach May 08

Half 1:24:22 Bottwartal  Oct 06

Marathon: 3:06:18 Antalya Mar 08

Short-Term Running Goals:

Train consistently.  

Sub 37:30 10k

Finally break that longstanding 1/2M time

Run a sub 3:00 marathon.

Have a crack at a 5k, an uphill only race, a 50k.

Long-Term Running Goals:

2:55 marathon

37:00 10k

1:22 1/2 marathon

Place 1st in my age category.

Personal:

I'm a Brit living in a small town in the south west of Germany, on the edge of a nature park, the Schwäbisch-Fränkischer Wald. The landscape is very hilly with vineyards & orchards on the lower slopes merging into forest above. 42 years young, married since 1997 to my lovely wife.

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A.M. Lauftreff day and on a cold miserable grey morning 5 of us turned up to run together. The carpark is on top of a ridge in the woods and it was snowing well when we started out. The course we took was a lazy meander gradually downhill followed by a sharp steep uphill climb back to the start. Easy pace, the only memorable thing for me was the difference in temperature between the top and bottom of the hill. Snow above, rain below. Only 8k and we were back so I ran an extra 8k alone. Total 16k in 1:18:55, av pace 4:56/k or 7:56/mi.

An idea that is kicking around in my head at the moment. My training here is all on hills, can this have a detrimental effect on my speed.  I started placing for the first time this year in my age category, all on hilly race courses but get my backside kicked in flat course races. A 10k time this year for a race with a 120m ascent was 38:44, on the flat 38:34, the pace is virtually the same. I know, too much thinking, just run. 

Comments
From Tom on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:21:19

Ian I think training all on hills does have definite pro and con. I've seen the same type thing happen to me but I suppose it only makes sense: your best race courses will be those that are most like your training courses.

But based off my own experience and what Sasha and others have said, I do think you can do some hill-based workouts that can help your speed in general. In particular, tempo/faster runs on a downhill course (not too steep however or it gets dangerous!) seem to get the brain and legs accustomed well to the correct form and mindset needed for faster running. Nice thing with the easy downhill you can do your tempos faster without getting so aerobically drained so they're funner/easier to do than the equivalent flat run or trying to push hard uphill where you are seriously sucking wind but not going very fast.

Personally I love running downhill about as much as anything (even funner in the wee morning hours in the dark!). Even though nice flat courses are supposed to be the fastest for racing I seem to prefer a little variation so I get a chance to push down a hill at some point. Wish I could learn to enjoy the uphill.

Good luck with the training. I would be curious what others have to say about this subject as well.

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