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Location:

Baden-Württemberg,Germany

Member Since:

Oct 29, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Started running in 2004.

PR's 

10k 37:44 Sülzbach May 08

Half 1:24:22 Bottwartal  Oct 06

Marathon: 3:06:18 Antalya Mar 08

Short-Term Running Goals:

Train consistently.  

Sub 37:30 10k

Finally break that longstanding 1/2M time

Run a sub 3:00 marathon.

Have a crack at a 5k, an uphill only race, a 50k.

Long-Term Running Goals:

2:55 marathon

37:00 10k

1:22 1/2 marathon

Place 1st in my age category.

Personal:

I'm a Brit living in a small town in the south west of Germany, on the edge of a nature park, the Schwäbisch-Fränkischer Wald. The landscape is very hilly with vineyards & orchards on the lower slopes merging into forest above. 42 years young, married since 1997 to my lovely wife.

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Race: Antalya Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:06:18, Place overall: 38, Place in age division: 8
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Well I ran a right dogs dinner for a race that’s for sure, big disappointment. My wife the same in the 10k, in training she could run under 55 mins, race day 57:32. Lack of sleep didn’t help, despite asking for a quiet room in our hotel we were placed in a room on the 8th floor. This was located on the outside area of a huge dome that overlooked the lobby area. Here the main 24hr bar was located, the noise spiraled upwards until 2am when it quietened down. We also had Mr & Mrs lets have a domestic when we’re drunk in the room next door. We couldn’t change our room for a few days, before the marathon I was awake until 2:30am, getting up again at 5am. Breakfast was some white bread and honey before boarding the bus to the start. I was blurry eyed, unenthusiastic and tired but I figured I would fire up when the race started.

The timing was on gun time so I got a good position near the front to avoid loosing time at the beginning. I planned to start at 4:15/k and see how I felt, settle in and pick it up a little. Weather was about 68°F and a good crossways breeze from the sea. The course is straight out along the coast to the turning point and back along the same way. A 40m gradual ascent over the first 7k with some views of the sea, then a drop back down again to sea level by km 8. The route was then in a straight line along one half of a coastal dual carriageway with uninspiring views of building sites, hotels and waste ground. The refreshment stations were every 2.5k offering water, powerade occasionally, slices of orange and apple. Spectators and drums were at the start and some small tourist groups outside of hotels.

 

Bang goes the gun and off we go, picking up the coast road out from Antalya. I felt ok and just stuck to my own pace. Past the 2k point I noticed a turkish runner was alongside me at the same pace, with a mix of english/german we communicated, we had a similar time goal and agreed to run together. I set the garmin to record 5k splits so here they are with a few comments.

1. 21:15, spot on, no problems, settled in, slowly overtaking runners who’d shot out at the beginning.

2. 21:08, sun is out and it is warm, the water was given to us in ½l bottles which I found far better than the usual cups, felt ok.

3. 21:21, slightly too slow, already finding this harder than I should have, try and pick it up a little bit.

4. 21:20, again too slow, at about km17 we’d clapped the Kenyan runners on their way back. They look strong and with a long stride length that eats the ground up. Just after km20 my fellow turkish runner taps me on the shoulder to tell me he wants to slow down now which was a real shame. I hit the ½ way turnaround in 1:29:54, slower than I wanted but I still thought I could run under 3hrs.

5. 21:15, running on my own for the last 5k, the straight stretch is monotonous, each km taking seemingly forever to complete. Upto now been drinking the water that was offered, at the drink station made a dive between the helpers to grab a powerade bottle off table, unfortunately knocking some bottles onto the ground.

6. 21:44, km27 is where I started to loose it, I could see the pace slowing to 4:16/k, I sped up (so I thought) and was shocked at the 28km marker to see I’d actually gotten slower. I kept telling my legs to go faster and there was no response. At the km30 point I was feeling despondent, I’d ran faster to this point in training.

7. 23:28, getting worse now, I was running at my usual easy run pace, I didn’t feel out of energy, no wall, just slow and I couldn’t change gears. I tried and tried to bring the pace down to 4:30/k to bring me in under 3:05 but it didn’t happen. The one good thing was I reached the ½ marathon turnaround point at 31,5k, their race had started later so I was suddenly surrounded by runners that I was overtaking, that helped.

8. 23:26, still on easy run pace, feel sore and tired and looking forward to finishing.

9. last 2.2k, same pace. Entered the football ground where the finish was, here there was a crowd to clap everyone in. I managed a smile but I was well cheesed off with myself.

Past the finish line got my medal, a plastic bag containing food and drink (good idea) and met my wife to commiserate each other. Queued for about 40 mins to retrieve my bag in a packed narrow corridor full of jostling runners smelling of sweat and vomit. They couldn’t find my bag and I had to dig it out myself, just what you need after you’ve ran. Bus back to the hotel for some grub and a lovely 9 hour sleep.

Well what can I say, my training over the winter had gone really well, I was fully confident I would run under 3 hrs, no excuses. Time now to forget about this and work towards the next one.

No of finishers. Marathon – 347, Halfmarathon – 724, 10k – 362. No of toilets 6.

Men’s marathon was won in 2:16:13 by Philip Muia (Ken)

Womens marathon in 2:42:54 by Kristina Loonen (Ned)

Comments
From Tom on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:34:34

Nice to at last see the long-awaited race report Ian, however I'm very sorry the race did not go as you had hoped. I like your attitude of putting this one behind you and looking toward the next. Most every runner I know has a fair share of 'dud' races, usually for no apparent good reason.

On the other hand it appears this is still a big PR for you so you can take some consolation in that.

Your description of not feeling particularly winded but just not being able to get the legs to go faster sounds very familiar to me. Kind of sounds like maybe you ran out of glycogen stores and had to revert to burning fat. I suppose perhaps the lack of sleep, heat, and travel/jetlag issues might have all played a role. So much for speculation but it certainly is frustrating not to know exactly how/why a given race will end up the way it does.

All of us who have watched your training over the last few months know full well you are a sub-3 capable runner, probably sub-2:55 under the right circumstances.

Best of luck on the next race.

From Dale on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:38:11

Good race under less than ideal conditions. Sorry you didn't get your sub-3, but let's recap, shall we?

- Less than optimal final taper days regarding rest and I'd guess food

- Decidedly warm temps. 68F compared to the freezing levels and below you've been running in back home. A 30-40 degree increase is nothing to sneeze at and 68F is definitely warmer than I'd like.

- Monotonous course. This never helps...I'm guessing that the course is flatter than you're used to training on as well?

Any one of these easily accounts for several minutes off your capabilities. You've got a sub-3 in you...you just need to find the conditions that'll let it come out. Don't sweat this one, reset your training, and set yourself a new goal...you don't need to be training for a sub-3 anymore, you're training says you are there. Set your sights at a quicker time.

Alternately, you might want to consider a "rebound" marathon. If you don't feel like you pushed yourself too hard, find one a bit more local that's within the next couple of months and use this as an extended hard training run. I'd think April/May would be prime marathoning weather in Germany, just before the heat of the summer hits.

In any event, nice race. Don't sell short the fact that you PR'ed at the distance! Congrats!

From Benn on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:50:38

I think you ran a phenomenal race; and you had so many outlying factors that affected the performance. I agree with everything Dale says there. I also agree that you have the fitness for a very fast full 'thon in you. I think a fall/summer marathon :-D Hope you enjoyed the vacation at least :) It's always nice to get away for a week or two. Best of luck and don't get discouraged. 38th place is incredibly respectable and your time is a time I can only hope ot dream of!

From MichelleL on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 14:28:04

So, congratulations on a PR, but you definitely didn't run to your potential and that's why you're "cheesed off" -love the expression. You definitely had something go wrong.

Speaking as the blog expert of sleep deprivation, I think that sleep deprivation makes running at or above threshold VERY difficult. I think that is probably the main component in your slowing, which happened rather dramatically, which may indicate a fueling issue too.

When just a smallish PR effort is a bad race, then you are doing something right. The break through will occur. Are there races closer to home so you can minimize the travel effect?

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